joins us with a take on the gettize burg address. the conversation continues phone facebook, google+, twitter. see you next time. hello, welcome to al jazeera america. i'm david shuster in new york. john seigenthaler has the night off. it's 11:00pm on the east coast, 8:00 p.m. on the east. you are watching the only live newshour. border battle - the fate of children entering america. as the fight intensify, the emotional story of a reunion. close to store - a hurricane lashes the east coast. a live report from north
carolina. the first telephone interview for the occupied wall street protestor gaoled for hitting a police officers. she's free, is she sorry. >> and the big bang theory - on the eve of july 4th, we bring you the science behind fireworks. we begin with the migrant crisis. texas governor rick perry says all undocumented children should be sent back to their home count rigs, speaking at a hearing today. he asked for the state to be reimbursed $500 million, which is what it cost texas to try to secure the border and keep illegal immigrants out.
>> allowing them to remain will only encourage the next group of individuals to undertake this dangerous and life-threatening journey. >> more than 50,000 children, mostly from central america crossed into the united states since october. political leaders call the influx a humanitarian crisis. the children have been crowded in border shelters and sent across the country. those with family or friends in the united states can stay with them temporarily. we have more from dallas forthworth texas. the site of some emotional reunions. >> she's six, and signing herself into the custody of parents, persons that this little girl has not seen for four years. it was anguish, her mother tells me. they don't want to use their names, they are undocumented. mum and dad left el salvador to strive for a better life in the
united states. they didn't have money to send for their daughter until now. >> how does it feel? the father tells me his joy is beyond words and he knew they'd be together and he never allowed for doubt. . >> call it blind faith, responsibility or determination, the parents decision to send for their daughter has, for the moment, paid off. the girl is meeting her brother for the first time. no one knows what happened to the aunt she travelled with. family members think she was deported. the girl stayed in detention. spending a month in a children's shelter in south texas. >> what did you have to go through? >> she says she was treated well, but had to sleep in nile job, and it didn't -- nylon, and it didn't cover her. this is where the detention is
spent. the little girl says ut worst part -- says the worst part is alone. now you are with mummy and daddy, how is that? the family's happiness may not last long, it's a reality migrants face, as they celebrate temporary release. in a few months judges will decide their fate. more often than not, that's deportation. home from the airport. cynthia has that at the back of her mind. she and her son were released from government custody, she considered skipping court. as they catch her, they show no mercy. she could be banned from the u.s., and that's why she'll appear before a judge to plea for amnesty. she travelled alone with her son
to escape a death threat. shaken but undaunted, she held her son above waist high waters. he was made so sick he was hospitalized for a week. she tells me she was scared at first, but not any more. fear breeds more fear. >> a girl, 17, with her baby, doing this on her own. >> she and her son are in the care of this woman, a pastor and family friend living in dallas. >> if the migrants don't die in the desert they die at the hands of a criminal in honduras. they have two options, both risking death. >> next to those dangers, facing an immigration judge is not as intimidating. she knows her and her son's
future will be in the judge's hands. and the sacrifices to arrive here may be for nothing. >> there are several reasons for the surge at the u.s. border. central america is one of the violent parts of the world. what we have not talking a lot about is why. >> paul beban explains. >> as we have been reporting three countries account for the majority of this recent immigration surging, guatemala, honduras, and el salvador. we'll talk more, but look at the chart. this is homicides per 100,000 people. in all three, since 2006, it's been 40 or higher. honduras at 80 last year. by comparison let's add civilian casualties in iraq, 10 per 100,000 in 2012. that's on the rise with the violence there, but the point is
these countries in central america are a wore zone. the u.s. rate is 4.7 per 100,000. when we ask why are so many coming from this part of the world, the short answer is life or death. the main reason boils down to location, location, location. these countries are weak, corrupt. they are dominated by the drug trade supply. here is what latin american analysts had to say about it. >> guatemala, honduras, and el salvador is sandwiched, if you want to call it that way between north america and south sudan, the consumers are the suppliers. there's a truth and it's just that criminals, drug cartels and gang members are more powerful than the government itself. nowhere is it more true than
honduras. as much as half of all the cocaine coming to the u.s. comes through honduras, a country the size of tennessee, with a population of 8 million, as many as new york city. it's enable to control the borders, in the grip of cartels and gangs. children are vulnerable to gangs. they recruit boys as early as kindergarten and target girls for nonconsensual sex. children who refuse demands are tortured, raped, kidnapped, killed and going to school can be dangerous. that's where they are targeted. the u.n. is looking at children league central america and says based on what they say they are fleeing, nearly 60% would be eligible for some kind of humanitarian relief or international application, and for that they are looking north to the united states. when there's talk of sending the children back, it's worth considering why the homeland are
why they are how they are and are more dangerous than iraq from 2008 to 2012. the children are more like refugees running from war, than migrants. >> paul beban. hurricane arthur is a category 2 storm. chris is in north carolina where the storm is forecast to make land fall. what is it like where you are right now? >> you know, we are starting to feel the first rain bands of this storm as it makes its way up the coast. it's been over land south of here for the better part of the last 2-3 hours. it's been a pleesent night here. in the last 10 commnts we had a heavy rain -- minutes we had a heavy rain band. the surf is rolling in. we moved closer to the building over the dune because high tide is actually arriving right now as well. we have this hurricane arriving within the next couple of hours
and high tide. the storm surge could be gant along the -- significant along the coast. now it's picking up. this area is under voluntary evacuation order, not mandatory. there are a lot of people, a lot of tourists in the hotel, intent on riding this thing out. i don't know if it's a good or bad idea. local officials are asking people to get out. as i drove through the down, it was a pleasant 4th of july night. people filling restaurants. it's quieter. but there's significant tourists here riding this thing out. >> thank you for that report. rebecca stevenson is tracking the hurricane in new york. >> we have gotten over 3.5 inches of rainfall in north carolina, and we are seeing that around wilmington and stretching up the clothesline as a
category 2. hurricane arthur is working its way to north-north-east. slow enough to keep training the storms over some of the same areas, and the bands of showers wrapped around the hurricane easily spawned thunder storms that create tornados. tornados typically within a hurricane get to a category of one or two. they are relatively week, however, they cause damage. at the last check we had a sustained wind of 100 miles per hour, and keeping in mind category 2 hur quan, 96 -- hurricane, 96 mils. the last report from noah reported wind is the 67 miles per hour, warnings stretching across the north carolina coast. this will be the area impacted the greatest when it comes to beach erosion, and the potential
of tornados, rain fall and storm surges. significant flood threat all the way across the islands, the barrier islands of north carolina. as that category 2 remains that strength as it goes through the morning hours, moving to the atlantic. once it gets to the atlantic ocean, it pulls away the greater threat from land. however, we are watching closely. tropical storm warnings impacting massachusetts tonight into tomorrow. >> a growing wildfire is threatening the treasured tourist area of napper valley california, the fire started to burn orn views, and -- on tuesday and expanded through the night and burnt through 6 miles of land, forcing the evacuation of homes. the cause is unknown, no injuries reported. >> there was a promising sign for the u.s. economy. the labour department reporting the lowest unemployment rate in
6 years, falling to 6.1%. employers atting 686,000 workers, more than expected. wall street reacted to the news by setting a record. the dal gained 92 points, closing 17,000 for the first time. a privacy watchdog group claims facebook broke the law by conducting a psychological experiment on users, they filed a complaint with the federal trade commission, saying facebook deceived users studying whether positive or negative updates affected their emotions. the group alleges facebook would share with researchers. facebook responded saying it would not conduct research without permission. >> one of the world's most powerful women has advice for boxing mums, stop with the mummy guilt, you have to cope. the chairman and c.e.o. of pepsi
coe's some blunt statements about balancing motherhood and a career, mainly that you cannot have it all. >> we pretend we have it all, that we can have it all. my husband and i married for 34 years, and we have two daughters. every day you have to make a decision on whether you arrive for a mother. in fact many times during the day you have to make those decisions. and you have to coopt a lot of people to help you. we coopted the families to help us, planning our lives meticulously to be decent parents. if you ask our daughters, i'm not sure they'd say i've been a good mum. i'm not sure. >> she shared personal stories about missing her daughter's school events for work and balancing her role as a mother and running a fortune 500 company. joining us is christen, the c.e.o. of mum's rising, an
organization that promotes economic security for women. great to have you on the programme. what is your rehabilitation to the pepsi coe c.e.o. who said women can't have it all. >> she is sharing a frustration that women across america have now, today. we have a problem where the modern labour forces is 50% women, but public policies have not caught up with that reality. the frustration that the c ex o of pepsi is sharing is something more profound for low wage workers. >> because low wage workers have more challenges than the c.e.o. and i imagine some include their pay keeping up with male counterparts, right? >> absolutely. across the board women have not broken through the glass ceiling. she has as c.e.o. of pepsi. if you look at fortune 500 companies, less than 5% of fort
tune 5000 c.e.o.s are women, in the media, less than 20% of media executives are women and at congress less than 20% of congress are women. women have not broken through, and part of the reason is they have not gotten over the maternal wall. that is that women without children are making $0.90 to a man's dollar. women with children are making $0.73. women of colour are making $0.54 to a man's dollar. this frustration that he was talking about, in terms of scrugling it all with -- struggling it all with kids and work, she is talking about a frustration for people that are not c.e.o.s. >> and in individual cases i imagine it's expon engs when you don't have paid sick leave. there's something like low-wage workers don't have that.
>> well actually, 80% of low wage workers don't have access to an until-paid sick day. if you look at the flipside it's the opposite for highways workers of the 85% do have access. what we see is women juggling unprecedented gender roles, an unprecedented number of activities that they need to complete, and the public policies like paid family leave, which is leave paid after you give birth to a new bayy is not happening in the united states of america. both of those policies, paid sick days and family leave are the norm. we have to take a step back and look at what it happening across the labour force. 81% of women in america are having kids by the time they are 44, and three-quarters of mums are in the labour force. there's more women in low wage
jobs. 9% of women who work now make 34,000 a year. in those jobs, you are more likely to have access to sick day, and paid family leave, and those jobs are still stressful as she was talking about, because we have not broken through the class ceiling fully, women are working double and triple time. she was talking about working until midnight. it is not uncommon, and sthunt be common. >> if -- shouldn't be common. >> if women had equal pay, paid days, sick days and leave. and imagine the economic playing field, would it be possible to have it all? >> you know, nobody can have it all, it's a myth of american kughture, we want -- culture, we want it all. you have to define what it all is. we work more hours than any
other nation, it's not smart economically or in terms of making children and economies thrive. when we look at the impact of having these public policies, working normal hours so you are not sitting ot your desk -- at your disc, you can sigh the employee productivity goes up, you have greater performance, and you have higher retention of valued employees, so the businesses are spending less money on recruiting and retraining and filling the positions. >> thank you for coming on the programme. coming up, released - the occupied wall street protestor who hit a police officer, we have the first it was interview since she was freed. plus, changing traditions like christmas this amsterdam might never be the same.
palestinian youngster. rockets have been fired. nick schifrin has the story. on the streets of one of the world's holiest cities the bottle lines are drawn. for two straight days one of jerusalem's roads is split in two. israeli police fight to keep the city upped control. rocks, stun grenades. for one fighter a run to throw a molotov cocktail lapping short of its target. >> tomorrow this neighbourhood will bury mohammed abukhdair, a 17-year-olds they say was murdered to avenge the killing of three teenagers. his mother says there's a hole inside of her. >> reporter: do you feel you'll ever be hole? >> i feel like my heart has been
ripped out. >> reporter: the family's house is up over the hill. you can see the smoke. the two sides have been clashing for the last few minutes and the police set up a cordon, this is as close as we or anyone can get to those fighting. the violence has two fronts, and southernize rail, palestinian rockets are beginning to find tart. israel raised the threat level. no injuries, because the families are hiding in safe rooms, like this one. we spent a day with this family, four kids, 4-16. they have grown up with a rocket threat. they have memorised a 15 second song. 15 seconds because that's how long they have to run to a shelter before a missile could hit. >> we can't have a normal life
like any other teenager in israel - it's our normal life and routine. >> i sleep in the bomb shelter. so yes, i hear and it wakes me up. you get used to it. >> behind their fence is the army's fence, behind that, less than a mile away is gaza. gaza is beginning to feel like a war zone. in response to the rocket israeli military uncleared strikes, spreading fear across gas a. outside the border it's massing troops, it says for defensive purposes. >> hamas says it doesn't invite invasion, but vows to respond with sustained war. hamas is trying to show defines and solidarity about the protesters in east jerusalem, and sol illed arty with a mother. her son wanted to be an electrician like his father "my
son was burned. i hope the people that did this burp too." nick schifrin reporting from gaza and israel. in the netherlands chris christmas may look different. a traditional dutch character has been declared offensive. his name is black pete and he brought present for kids, but he's brought controversy. >> reporter: for about 200 years black pete has been the face of this pre-christmas tradition. it's this face that has been increasingly controversial in the netherlands, and overseas. made up with black paint, red lips and an afro he arrives on a boat to great fanfare, handing out presents. now a court ruled he's offensive and continuing a negative stereotype for black people. amsterdam will have to rethick their parade. >> black pete cannot condition
the which it has. it means we'll have no black peat. >> debate over black pete intensified with complaints laid with the u.n. he can be portrayed as bum bling, slow. human right activists argued he was a racist character. >> a facebook campaign was set up to get rid of him. others say he is a harmless fantasy figure, a part of tradition that has to stay. >> i know a lot of black people. they are in support of celebrating black pete. it's a celebration for children. >> the battle to hold on for black pete is symptom attic of losing identity. by november this year, it seems black pete will need to have a makeover if he's invited to the party at all. >> coming up extra embryos.
welcome back to al jazeera america. i'm david shuster, just ahead - out of gaol - occupy wall street activist cyst ill yes mcmillan spent 68 days behind bars and sits with us for her first television interview. >> dock workers working without contract. cargo is moving, but for how long. lighting up the sky. a closer look at the science behind fireworks.
she became the face of the occupy wall street movement in 2012 when arrested during a protest for assaulting a police officers. you see what appears to be sicily mcmillan elbowing an officer. she was convicted of felon assault. she could have received years, but a judge sentenced her to 90 days in rikers island. yesterday she was released. i asked if she regrets what happened much. >> of course i regret being put in a situation where i was sexually assaulted and found a felon over it, and sent to gaol for it. absolutely. i do believe as an american citizen, i should be allowed to meet up with a friend at a park and go to a bar. >> you feel you were unfairly
convicted. were you surprised by the hard. >> i would have to say i was. in the sense that i thing it was obvious - there was a hand print, material, facing upward and scratch marks on my chest. i think that i was very badly insured by the police officer, i think there was reason to assume that the police officers were acting in a way to shut down protests that night, a park cleaning at midnight doesn't add up. >> the jury convicted you and came to the conclusion that the happened print may have come when they wrestled you to the ground. >> sure, when you have a prosecutor editing out most of the case, most of the evidence, the officer had a violent history, you can see clearly,
and various videos that i'm being beaten by what appears to be more than one officer. they kept out the fact that that officer, despite being so very injured went on to enlist a male who is suing him. and bashing hit head against the steps of the bus. we had three witnesses that were not allowed to step up, continual and continue and continue. he edited the entire court case to prescribe the result that he wanted. a lot of jury members came out in remorse for - i mean, finding me guilty of that felony. and asking for leniency. >> protesters are often stigmatized in germ. why do you see that happening, in terms of taking to the streets and demonstrating? >> i think it is a hold over to
some degree of what occurred in the 1960s, especially with the regan era. you saw so far a villainisation of steing out to protest. i think beyond that there is a sentiment where you were to keep your head down, keep moving, work hard, make your money and take care of your own. look how much we have to fight tooth and nail for a job, our house, the middle class. >> tell me about rikers island. a lot of people go through the experience and it changes them. what was it like for you? >> you said a lot of people. i would say a lot of people from a particular class and in particular of a particular colour. for me, obviously that experience was different. >> you took your activism, kept it there and organised some of the inmates. what are some of the issues that need to be changed as far as fair treatment in order to
penalize people qubd and september -- convicted and sent there, but provide human city. >> there are people who have lumps, that go in every week for a biopsy, people that know they've had cancer, not treated. mental health care. when you go in, if you tell the interests that generally you have a disorder. i have severe adhd, you are prescribed buscar an anti-anti-medicine. i had to engage in a 3-week fight to get the medication that i've been on since 8 years of age. i lost three days of my memory. it was a sedation. these women want help. just like quin else, they want to be -- anyone else. they want to function, and want to garner skills that are beyond maintenance or g.e.d.
they want to have skills and help with p.t.s.d., domestic violence, they want to be better parent and have access to resources like dress programs or assistance with getting a house that does not put them back in a situation. >> cecily mcmillan an occupy wall street protestor that just got out of prison after 90 days. thank you for being on the programme. >> dock workers are in talks. their agreements expired op tuesday, signs of hoping to avoid a strike that could cost millions are the hope. we are this report. >> reporter: these containers at oakland are the future. it may be july, but they hold products that will line shelves in fall and holiday season. >> west coast ports have a tremendous impact to the
economy, as most of the goods that come in to the united states come through the gate way. the port of oakland is the fifth busiest port in the united states and third busiest on the west coast. >> reporter: all that activity could come to a halt in the shore men cannot reach a deal with the ports. >> they have a great deal of power. they can shut the west coast, and really ex-cert economic pressure. this is why the raits government, through the -- united states government through the attorney-general intervened in past disputes - in 1971 and 1972. >> this man cap make $41-$42 an hour, plus bonuses. the biggest sticking point is health care. in 2002 employers locked out dock workers for 10 days for
failing to reach a deal. >> west coast coast ports contain two-thirds of cargo, including merchandise from asia. 29 ports are at stake, including los angeles, long beach, and seattle. >> a 5-day stoppage results in about a $2 billion lose to the u.s. economy. >> imports are not the issue. fruit and vegetables ship overseas from west coast ports. delay means rotting food and lost sales. >> with the media blackout during the negotiations, it's difficult to get a sense of how talks are going. industry observers say a strike they hope is unlikely. both sides have too much to lose if everything behind me stops. many families battling fertility turn to adoption. some choose an alternative path by talking an embryo from
another couple. diane eastabrook has that story. >> linda and chip called 17 month old kali a dream baby. after two unsuccessful event of invitro fertilisation, they turned to another thoxed. >> we knew we wanted children. >> what made it exciting was not only would we give an embryo life, but linda would have the experience of being pregnant. >> kali came from one of 14 frons embryos from mike and melissa. >> who touches mummy first. >> after conceiving twins and a son through ivf, the eagletons decided their family was complete. they didn't want to the destroy unused embryos.
the eagle tonnes turned to a non profit adoption, assisting in embryo adoptions, rutting in 400 -- resulting in 400 baby. 47% result in births. at $15,000, it's half as much as traditional adoption and tacks less time. -- takes less time. the the matching time is a couple of months. in domestic adoption it can be two years. >> agreements signed are written as property contracts because most states don't recognise embryos as people. that's part of the reason the american society of reprulentive measures doesn't support the term embryo adoption. >> adoption concerns conferring rite to a living child or person. embryos have not achieved that. they have that potential. >> this group matches donors
baffed op religion, family value. >> they like football, going out on boats, everything that we liked they liked. >> did you see her who you a kissy. >> contracts spell out the amount of contact donor parents get with the child. kali knows her biological family through video calls and met them twice. >> this looks like kali. is this kali. >> no, it's brefan. >> looking at her son remind her of the little girl she won't be raising, and the questions to come. >> reporter: why did you give kali up, or from kali, why do you give me up. >> yes, it was not app ops to have 14 -- an option to have 14 more. we loved her enough to choose life for her by embryo adoption. >> it's a little boy. >> chip and lippeda hope to --
lippeda hope to have another baby with the remaining embryos. >> more than 160,000 people around the world die of measles each year, even though a vaccine is available. an outbreak of the highly contagious disease in the united states prompts a vaccination campaign. there is a twist. the campaign is focussed on a community that has long resisted immunization. tom ackerman reports. >> reporter: the horse and buggy, common in central ohio, home of the largest aimish community in the world. devout christian descend aned of swiss and german immigrants, they avoid motorized vehicles and routine visits to doctors. that changed since aimish relief volunteers returned from ty on-stricken philippines where measles claimed 70 lives. what the me brought back was the
most serious outbreak of the disease in the u.s. since 1994. the most vulnerable infants and small children. >> almost all state, including ohio allow children to be ex-e from immunisation if parents hold religious or strong objections. aimish say trust in god provide application. several thousand showed up at clinics handling the new vaccine. the local health commissioner is hearing more aimish repeating anti-vaccine. those campaigners argue that vak as soon as possible are listened to autism, leukaemia and other disorders. >> the work of many that have been discredited certainly has been heard by the aimish community and they are concerned
about that. >> the u.s. centers for disease control and prevention says 90% of a population should be vaccinated to provide it with herd imunity. >> susceptible people are protected because they are surrounded by immune people, and break the chain so that person to person transmission doesn't find them. >> reporter: local health authorities hope the outbreak will persuade the aimish the higher the vaccination rate the better the protection. >> now, to the death and remembrances of an american hero, lewis zamporini passed away, a story of heroism and perseverance in world war ii is being turned into a major hollywood film. lowy was the person sonification of the american hero, an olympic star, decorated world war ii vet surviving captivity bit japanese against
the odds. he was born in new york to italian immigrant parents. a member of the 1936 u.s. olympic team, he ran the 5,000 metres. at 19, the youngest american ever to qualify this that event. during world war ii, his bomber crashed into the pacific, he was thought lost and declared dead. his family receiving a message from president franklin d roosevelt reading:. >> but he had survived. enduring 47 days in a barrel raft, living on water and fish. he was caught by the japanese and severely weighten and mistreated in a br k -- beaten and mistreated in a prison of war camp. >> it was heart breaking.
i never had a thought in my mind about giving up. >> at home he struggled with alcohol until a sermon by billy graham turned his life around. he later returned to japan, where he met and publicly forgave some of his captors. decades later, following a best-selling book, his life is being brought to hollywood by angelina jolie, saying bringing his heing as si to the -- his legacy to the screen is a responsibility. >> such a huge responsibility. angelina jolie released a statement about his death:. >> an american honoured for a near century of life, filled with so many remarkable event. and the spirit with which he faced them. >> our picture of the day is
miles per hour drop to 37 miles per hour, and the pressure fall 13 millo bars. it is moving onshore and will cross the outer banks over the course of 4-6 hours. we'll continue to bring its strongest wins wrapping around the north-east of england. as the storm tracks over the atlantic the winds will change direction out of the south-west. once you get the powerful wind gusts from one direction, they switch to another. we cross the 84 miles per hour, there has been 64 miles per hour gusts. this storm system over the water will bring blustery wind at time through the east coast. not nearly the strength or power that north carolina gets tonight. as this moves through, we'll see a bit of rainfall stretching up the coast as the storm moves by. by tomorrow night. july the 4th things will dry,
from new jersey to manhattan. heavy rain continues across massachusetts. all the stops will be pulled out putting on fire works displays. preparing for the action is a long and sometimes dangerous job. science and technology correspondent jacob ward reports what it takes to light up the sky. >> reporter: this is one of several bathrooms that san francisco uses to -- barges that san francisco uses to launch a
july the 4th display. they are connected to here. this is a far cry from the shells that the supposed inventor of fireworks in china created over 1,000 years ago. the purpose was to scare ghosts, it was a little tube with gunpowder and you threw it into the fire. today they are incredibly sophisticated. there's a blast charge at the bottom, a black powder that fires it up into the air. some fire works display uses an air bust. this uses explosives, setting off this timed fuse. it's extremely sophisticated, timed out to a length for 500 feet in this case that will go off at the altitude, setting off an inner explosive.
it rips open. they blow out. chemical compounds inside make it the solures that you want them to be. it makes it red. barium green, copper blue. the stars can form smiley faces and boxes. the idea that you'll issuingest rate so many of these. the idea that you choreograph thousands of these is unbelievable. >> we have an armful of artillery, what do we have? >> we have aerial shells. this is a reps of what we'll shoot in a variety of size the. >> how reliable is it. i assumed there was timers, remote controls. it's entirely manual. it's very 19th century looking. >> this has been going on for a long time. the way we ignite the fuse has
changed. once we ignite it and it goes inside. this has been happening for centuries. >> how do you get it lit? >> there's a network on the sides of the boxes. >> you are not supposed to do that, drop them. >> that's fine. there's a module on the side. it's addressable. all of these will have the modules on them, and they'll be cabled together. there's a controller that will be at the operator's shed. he sends a signal out to the network that says i'm looking at the one address that i want to fire. he'll find it it will be launched in the air. >> my inner 9-year-old was freaking out. the funny thing is it's a technical enterprise, the devices are bought from high-grade manufacturers in china, japan and germany, there's world class expertise on
display. the way it's described is to say that he's trying to go from the oohs and aghs, the mark of a great fireworks display. that is what he is going for. science and technology jacob ward. gary souza is a codesigner of the 4th of july fireworks over new york's brooklyn bridge. your family is known as the american fireworks family. how did it start and evolve into a family business? >> i'm part of a fifth generation of a family of fireworks. my great grandfather came over from portugal and celebrated, and the festivities that went over the state of california. my grandfather continued that. he took this into the next level. he and my brother and i brought it up to a point where we are using electronics and computers
to do magical things in the sky. we had more than a few people saying "you have one of the coolest jobs that exist", is there any special training you need. >> we have firework university. six times a year we have a weekend where people learn about fireworks, the regulation, how to do it to entertain the masses. you'll be setting off the fireworks over the brooklyn bridge, which doesn't happen often. any specific challenges with firing them off a bridge? >> there's a challenge in doing fireworks etverywhere. you have to pay attention. you have great cooperation to get access to a great american icop, the brooklyn bridge. it's been a fantasy of mine for years.
we have selected some custom made fireworks, because the firebarks that you use -- fireworks that you use, we didn't want to leave embers or run the reserve of burning, they have to be self-consuming products. we'll create a flag, red and white cascades will envelope down from the roadway towards the water with blue swirling stars, and blue bursts from the barges around it. it will by magnificent. >> how do you design something like that? >> it starts in my mind. i work with the macey's team, we get the music a year in advance. we've been working on the brooklyn bridge longer than that. about a year we start shopping, go out in the fall and go to china, europe, to finded most unique and best-quality product that we can, bring them out and listen to the music and you get the feel. to me it's about the passion.
anybody can make things go boom, boom, boom, but to the capture the feeling and emotion goodnight the oohs and the aghs and watch the face be mesmerised, that's my goal. >> are there fire works that are more difficult than others. ones that drift and the fire works that look like smiley faces and hearts. >> mine is the camaro. my sit piece is what i call the golden mile, and working on a show like macy's, it has multiple bathrooms with casca cascading the length of the river. they started 1,000 feet and hang down to the water's edge. i try to go something different, and add a bit of a red or purple bouquet within that. this year we have strobing stars. cascading gold and turning into a sparkling effect and then we
fire up the bridge and watch comets up and down the roadway, over the water, a magnificent pyrokinetic experience. >> i don't think i want to be first in line for your job. any challenges with the weather or adjustments you have to make. >> we baton down the hatches. we knew this was too good to be true. we had a great week at work. we batoned everything down and check it every day. the powder, so far, is dry. >> a lot of people when they go to fireworks. do they need to be close, far away. is there a favourite position you have? >> everyone things we have the greatest job. you are right underneath it, to get back and get the perspective of the day is a better vantage point. you don't center to be rite under it where it's so loud and doesn't take the shape because
you are hooking underneath an umbrella, rather than at a sea of umbrellas. >> it's a pleasure. interesting to have you in the programme. vice president, pyrotechnic spectacular. enjoy the weekend. thanks for sharing with us. >> my measure. >> as we get ready to celebrate 4th of july, our picture from indiana, a new citizens holding app american flag at a naturalisation ceremony. more than 100 did that tonight in indiana. i'm david shuster. "america tonight" is next.